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pal334 69M  
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7/17/2018 4:34 am

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~~+ Why steal it?

I posted this previously and I actual saw something similar yesterday. .. Yesterday was a day that I will remember for awhile. I live in a community that has a large population of active duty and retired military people. I was at a coffee shop with a friend having a cup of coffee. We noticed one fellow in particular that came in to the shop with a noticeably messed up and improperly worn military uniform. The shop does provide a discount to all military members when they show their Identification card. This person demanded in a loud voice that they give him the discount but refused to show ID. Just before my friend and I were getting up to deal with this person ,a Police Officer came in and shut this punk up. I went to the officer and requested that he verify the punks military status. He did not have a military ID , this jerk was just trying to use the uniform to get various discounts (he had a shopping bag with a receipt that showed he had gotten a military discount for sneakers). We told the Policeman that we wanted to file charges against the man under the Stolen Valor Act. Very little pisses me off more than a person impersonating a military member and usually by doing so causes embarrassment. Now this punk is pending a hearing for this charge. Have you ever seen this type of activity? Does it bother you if you do?

The Stolen Valor Act of 2013 (Pub.L. 113–12; H.R. 25 is a United States federal law that was passed by the 113th United States Congress. The law amends the federal criminal code to make it a crime for a person to fraudulently claim having received any of a series of particular military decorations with the intention of obtaining money, property, or other tangible benefit from convincing someone that he or she rightfully did receive that award. This law is a revised version of a previous one that was struck down by the Supreme Court of the United States in the case United States v. Alvarez for being an infringement of the constitutional right to freedom of speech.













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pal334 69M  
45821 posts
7/17/2018 4:36 am

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SimpleLatina 59F
3447 posts
7/17/2018 4:59 am

They are such an embarrassment to themselves. I have no respect for these thief's


superbjversion2 68F  
24388 posts
7/17/2018 6:13 am

Yes, it bothers me ... liars always do. Unfortunately, I would not recognize an imposter to report.

Thank you for your service, Pal!

Opportunity may knock only once, but temptation bangs on the door forever!


Heels_N_Squeals 50F
68 posts
7/17/2018 6:23 am

First and foremost, my personal opinion is that military personnel are creeps, and I'll get in to that later.

"The shop does provide a discount to all military members when they show their Identification card. This person demanded in a loud voice that they give him the discount but refused to show ID. He did not have a military ID , this jerk was just trying to use the uniform to get various discounts (he had a shopping bag with a receipt that showed he had gotten a military discount for sneakers)."

This begs me to ask the question: If the shop policy is to discount military members who can prove that through their ID, then why did this shop clerk actually ring this person up WITH a military discount WITHOUT ID? Answer: Again, because military people are creeps! Whether the so-called impostor was really a military member or not, we, as the audience here don't know any truth in that. What we do know what's wrong with this story is this:
1 .) You want to blame the "impostor" 100% and throw the books at him, yet you personally have no proof that he was NOT a part of military. Just because you have a "hunch" or "suspicion" that this person wasn't military by the way he was dressed, doesn't necessarily mean he wasn't military. This is what the Constitution is all about. In this case, it's designed to protect it's citizens from those who accuse us of something like this. This is exactly like the Salem witch trials. We don't just go around accusing others as if we're single-handedly the judge, jury and executioner. This is why we have the Constitution.
2 .) And what about the shop clerk? There is no mention of him/her in this story....other than the clerk ringing the person up with a military discount per his store receipt. You want to blame the "impostor" 100% without having any actual proof of whether or not he's a military member, yet there is no description here of why the shop clerk rang someone up WITHOUT a military ID, if that's their policy to do so. Seems that if this "impostor" was indeed a phony, then this shop clerk should also be reprimanded and action be taken. Here's why this happened...because military people are creeps! They have this mentality that they are above the level of other average citizens...they aren't! They are trained to be "the best", "the toughest", "not to take no for an answer" and have this silly-minded bullying mentality that their word is absolute Law, as if they are God or something....they aren't! So whether or not this person was or was not an impostor, that's anyone's guess here until we find out results of the hearing....but what we do know is that the silly-minded mentality of military bully tactics do work if all that this person had to do to override the shop clerk's policy was to raise his voice and demand a discount. This is how military act in the real world and is exactly why we're now residing in a police state.

We haven't even gotten into the nitty gritty of how police officers actually gotten to look at this guy's store receipt. Again, Constitution protects us from invasion like this. If anyone asks to see your personal possessions, including sales receipt, tell them to buzz off and walk away unless they have solid proof pre-established that the person has/is/did commit a crime. It isn't the citizen that provides self-incriminating proof. 'Nuff said!

"Just before my friend and I were getting up to deal with this person ,a Police Officer came in and shut this punk up. I went to the officer and requested that he verify the punks military status. "

And that's just the type of silly-minded military mentality that I'm talking about. You and your friend got up to deal with this person....ok, and who are you both? Let me remind you that you and your friend are just ordinary citizens...you aren't the law and you aren't L.E.O.'s ( since you said a police officer then assisted ). So remind us all here, who are you and your friend to get up and walk over to this person as if you both have some sort of authority in the matter? You don't! You're both ordinary citizens, so there was no reason for you both to get up out of your seats and assist, as if you are both some sort of world heroes in the matter. You aren't! That's the problem here with this knuckleheaded mentality! Then you go barging over to the police officer in fury, escalating the situation without having any single piece of solid proof against an innocent citizen. You're ignorant to the U.S. law and a disgrace to the Constitution! How dare you stand for everything this country is founded upon and then at the very same time contradict it all by accusing a complete stranger of wrongdoing without having any solid proof in the matter. Again, this is why we have the Constitution that you military goons are trampling. You two had no right approaching this man. Who are you both but ordinary citizens just like anyone else in the coffee shop with you? Smh!

"Very little pisses me off more than a person impersonating a military member and usually by doing so causes embarrassment."
Very little pisses me off more than an average person who thinks they have some sort of authority that they don't and who tramples the very foundation of rights of what this country's establishment is founded upon.

"...a Police Officer came in and shut this punk up."
"I went to the officer and requested that he verify the punks military status."
"Now this punk is pending a hearing for this charge."

Again, military goons are creeps! Are you forgetting....it's innocent until proven guilty? NOT guilty until proven innocent. I love the bold headed accusations and "punk" language being used here toward a citizen whom is lawfully still innocent and in which you have no proof in the matter as to whether or not this man is/was ever in the military. And this is why military personnel are creeps, along with every other branch of our deteriorated social and justice system. L.E.O.'s are no different. In my next section, I'll prove why...

"Have you ever seen this type of activity? Does it bother you if you do?"
Yes, I see proof...I repeat, PROOF of criminal activity right under my nose daily, yet I'm to shrug it off as "patriotic" or "a pat on the back for what you men do". Let me explain. First, you attached the Stolen Valor Act of 2013. Apparently that's something to get your panties in a knot about. But as I was saying, L.E.O.'s, fire and certain branches of the military have been mutilating the U.S. flag with their whole "blue line" ( police ), "red line" ( fire ), the "green line" ( military ) flags and the combined variations of them all sometimes.

This is a direct violation to the U.S. flag code, pointed out in the U.S. Flag Code, Section 176 (g): Respect for Flag:
United States Flag Code
(g) The flag should never have placed upon it, nor on any part of it, nor attached to it any mark, insignia, letter, word, figure, design, picture, or drawing of any nature.

So in the same exact sense, there is direct proof of violation that we see every day that NO action is taken on, unlike your story where you have NO proof and just " a hunch" or "suspicion" and DO want action taken on. It's unreal how backwards you goons are. That bothers me to no end!


myelin36 53F
3612 posts
7/17/2018 7:00 am

I love the HYPOCRISY of a member who chooses to flame EVERYONE who DISAGREES with HER opinion.

The very person flaming you for this blog post expresses her opinion that "military personnel are creeps." Yes, that is HER opinion. Thankfully she is NOT the majority. As a veteran who has fought for her to throw her" free speech" card around among other civil liberties I'm sure she takes for granted, her attitude disgusts me.

If you are so upset about how our government is run then DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. Leave the country. Denounce your citizenship. But for fuck sakes, quit hiding out in the blogs whining like a little bitch.

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Heels_N_Squeals 50F
68 posts
7/17/2018 7:02 am

And by the way, when it comes to the flag stuff, like you said, "why steal it"? We have a pre-existing U.S. flag. Each color of the red ( hardiness and valor ), white ( purity and innocence ) and blue ( vigilance, perseverance and justice ) have specific meaning, so why alter the colors to symbolize what you goons want them to mean? Why? Because of your knuckleheaded and bold headed mentality!

How ironic I find that you post the Stolen Valor Act of 2013 here, yet the military directly defaces the U.S. flag with it's shitty "green line" flag, which directly contradicts what the original colors of the U.S. flag represent ( red = valor; white = purity; blue = justice ). I laugh how you stand for valor, yet the military goes on to alter and deface the flag's red valor symbolic meaning. Same goes for purity....altering a flag no longer means the same symbolic meaning in purity. And then justice when you omit the blue symbolic meaning...
Justice: the administration of the law or authority in maintaining this.
This is laughable! Where's the justice in law and authority to maintain the original U.S. flag's colors/meaning when the very people who should be maintaining and upholding it's symbolism are the ones who are directly behind destroying the symbolic meaning. Not only do they alter it's meaning, but they actually go as far as supporting it's new " ___ line" meaning and are even proud to alter it's desecration. Then these are the goons who say "I'm proud to be an all American" and "I'm proud to serve and protect this country" and "This is the best country on earth", yet you people do nothing but trash our foundation .
Military, LE.O.'S, ETC... take an oath. That oath is to simply taken to NOT violate the constitution, but it's to defend against those who are violating it. So why do these "___ line" type flags exist when U.S. Flag Code clearly outlines the fact that it's unlawful to do so? Who is defending against these type of flags to not exist? Answer: Nobody! Why: Because you men are ignorant goons! In fact, you men in the military, L.E.O. and fire actually all encourage them and stand proud by the newly adopted flags, even though you're in direct violation and do nothing to uphold to what any of those took an oath is put in position to do.

So don't sit up here creating these outrageous blogs accusing someone who you have no proof against, yet having the entire military, L.E.O. and fire now encouraging violations blatantly right in front our faces. That's a disgrace to what this country is founded upon!


Heels_N_Squeals 50F
68 posts
7/17/2018 7:27 am

myelin36

My point proven again. That's the simple-minded mentality of how you were trained to think. You are clueless!

You're right, I said "my opinion" and I chose my wording carefully from the start to include that as to not get panties in a knot by others.

"Thankfully she is NOT the majority."
Thankfully for the dumbed-down, that is. In fact, if most were as diligent, this country wouldn't be in it's deplorable condition as it now is. It's those who are now in these branches who are the most blind to the corruption.

"As a veteran who has fought for her to throw her" free speech" card around among other civil liberties I'm sure she takes for granted..."
Again, there's the same knuckleheaded mentality that modern military members have surfacing again. You're assuming something that's not true. If I took free speech for granted or other civil liberties, then why would I make an effort to come here at all and voice my opinions on what is wrong with the picture at all? You make no sense. It's only those who keep quiet, let things slip by or take things with a grain of salt as our rights are diminishing each day, the ones who take things for granted. My grandfathers both served in WW2. I'm not ignorant to the fact that my rights are a precious commodity.

"...her attitude disgusts me."
Yours disgusts me, too. Why does mine disgust you? For telling the truth of why people like you who take an oath don't defend it or defend against those who try to violate the law? Give me a break!

"If you are so upset about how our government is run then DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. "
My point proven! Why do "green line" military flags exist? You took an oath to the military, correct? Why didn't YOU defend against upholding a violation so the U.S. flag is preserved? This is why YOU are in the position, this is why YOU took the oath. WHAT HAVE YOU DONE ABOUT IT??? Answer: Nothing!

"Leave the country. Denounce your citizenship"
Oh yeah, the person who is diligent, understands her rights and understands that YOU aren't doing your job for ME is the one who should leave my country of citizenship? You're clueless and ignorant!

"But for fuck sakes, quit hiding out in the blogs whining like a little bitch."
There's the knuckleheaded military mentality for you once again. So some guy comes here, PUBLICLY posts his blog and feels a need to vent and whine about the Valor Act. That's fine and all, but again, it's publicly posted for ALL to chime in. We're all entitled to voice our opinions, whether you think they are negative or positive, whether we agree or disagree with the blog poster. So you see nothing wrong with the blogger posting hiding out in blogs, whining like a little bitch....yet when I give my opinionated voice, suddenly I'm singled out as being the "whining little bitch who is hiding out in blogs". Do I even need to address your own actions as similarly whining, hiding out in this very same blog and voicing your own opinions on a PUBLIC blog? Laughable!!! Ignorant to the fact that you're on the same level as I am, same freedom of rights that I do, yet you likely expect a gold medal or for me to thank you for your services or for not doing your part to uphold the oath you took. Give me a break! Until you can explain to me a reason why these shitty "___ line" flags exist, then you haven't upheld your part in preserving my rights and freedoms for the oath YOU took to preserve them FOR ME, as an American. Clueless!


sweet_VM 65F
81699 posts
7/17/2018 8:11 am

Very sad this is still happening. Even in Canada they are still trying to get a discount and something for free. My question is as well why? They always seem to get caught don’t they. Great post Pal. Hugs V

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Tmptrzz 61F  
107039 posts
7/17/2018 11:29 am

That's a real shame when this stuff happens I am so glad the police were there to handle this man. Happy Tuesday Pal, I hope you have a terrific day..

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pal334 69M  
45821 posts
7/17/2018 11:39 am

    Quoting Heels_N_Squeals:
    First and foremost, my personal opinion is that military personnel are creeps, and I'll get in to that later.

    "The shop does provide a discount to all military members when they show their Identification card. This person demanded in a loud voice that they give him the discount but refused to show ID. He did not have a military ID , this jerk was just trying to use the uniform to get various discounts (he had a shopping bag with a receipt that showed he had gotten a military discount for sneakers)."

    This begs me to ask the question: If the shop policy is to discount military members who can prove that through their ID, then why did this shop clerk actually ring this person up WITH a military discount WITHOUT ID? Answer: Again, because military people are creeps! Whether the so-called impostor was really a military member or not, we, as the audience here don't know any truth in that. What we do know what's wrong with this story is this:
    1 .) You want to blame the "impostor" 100% and throw the books at him, yet you personally have no proof that he was NOT a part of military. Just because you have a "hunch" or "suspicion" that this person wasn't military by the way he was dressed, doesn't necessarily mean he wasn't military. This is what the Constitution is all about. In this case, it's designed to protect it's citizens from those who accuse us of something like this. This is exactly like the Salem witch trials. We don't just go around accusing others as if we're single-handedly the judge, jury and executioner. This is why we have the Constitution.
    2 .) And what about the shop clerk? There is no mention of him/her in this story....other than the clerk ringing the person up with a military discount per his store receipt. You want to blame the "impostor" 100% without having any actual proof of whether or not he's a military member, yet there is no description here of why the shop clerk rang someone up WITHOUT a military ID, if that's their policy to do so. Seems that if this "impostor" was indeed a phony, then this shop clerk should also be reprimanded and action be taken. Here's why this happened...because military people are creeps! They have this mentality that they are above the level of other average citizens...they aren't! They are trained to be "the best", "the toughest", "not to take no for an answer" and have this silly-minded bullying mentality that their word is absolute Law, as if they are God or something....they aren't! So whether or not this person was or was not an impostor, that's anyone's guess here until we find out results of the hearing....but what we do know is that the silly-minded mentality of military bully tactics do work if all that this person had to do to override the shop clerk's policy was to raise his voice and demand a discount. This is how military act in the real world and is exactly why we're now residing in a police state.

    We haven't even gotten into the nitty gritty of how police officers actually gotten to look at this guy's store receipt. Again, Constitution protects us from invasion like this. If anyone asks to see your personal possessions, including sales receipt, tell them to buzz off and walk away unless they have solid proof pre-established that the person has/is/did commit a crime. It isn't the citizen that provides self-incriminating proof. 'Nuff said!

    "Just before my friend and I were getting up to deal with this person ,a Police Officer came in and shut this punk up. I went to the officer and requested that he verify the punks military status. "

    And that's just the type of silly-minded military mentality that I'm talking about. You and your friend got up to deal with this person....ok, and who are you both? Let me remind you that you and your friend are just ordinary citizens...you aren't the law and you aren't L.E.O.'s ( since you said a police officer then assisted ). So remind us all here, who are you and your friend to get up and walk over to this person as if you both have some sort of authority in the matter? You don't! You're both ordinary citizens, so there was no reason for you both to get up out of your seats and assist, as if you are both some sort of world heroes in the matter. You aren't! That's the problem here with this knuckleheaded mentality! Then you go barging over to the police officer in fury, escalating the situation without having any single piece of solid proof against an innocent citizen. You're ignorant to the U.S. law and a disgrace to the Constitution! How dare you stand for everything this country is founded upon and then at the very same time contradict it all by accusing a complete stranger of wrongdoing without having any solid proof in the matter. Again, this is why we have the Constitution that you military goons are trampling. You two had no right approaching this man. Who are you both but ordinary citizens just like anyone else in the coffee shop with you? Smh!

    "Very little pisses me off more than a person impersonating a military member and usually by doing so causes embarrassment."
    Very little pisses me off more than an average person who thinks they have some sort of authority that they don't and who tramples the very foundation of rights of what this country's establishment is founded upon.

    "...a Police Officer came in and shut this punk up."
    "I went to the officer and requested that he verify the punks military status."
    "Now this punk is pending a hearing for this charge."

    Again, military goons are creeps! Are you forgetting....it's innocent until proven guilty? NOT guilty until proven innocent. I love the bold headed accusations and "punk" language being used here toward a citizen whom is lawfully still innocent and in which you have no proof in the matter as to whether or not this man is/was ever in the military. And this is why military personnel are creeps, along with every other branch of our deteriorated social and justice system. L.E.O.'s are no different. In my next section, I'll prove why...

    "Have you ever seen this type of activity? Does it bother you if you do?"
    Yes, I see proof...I repeat, PROOF of criminal activity right under my nose daily, yet I'm to shrug it off as "patriotic" or "a pat on the back for what you men do". Let me explain. First, you attached the Stolen Valor Act of 2013. Apparently that's something to get your panties in a knot about. But as I was saying, L.E.O.'s, fire and certain branches of the military have been mutilating the U.S. flag with their whole "blue line" ( police ), "red line" ( fire ), the "green line" ( military ) flags and the combined variations of them all sometimes.

    This is a direct violation to the U.S. flag code, pointed out in the U.S. Flag Code, Section 176 (g): Respect for Flag:
    United States Flag Code
    (g) The flag should never have placed upon it, nor on any part of it, nor attached to it any mark, insignia, letter, word, figure, design, picture, or drawing of any nature.

    So in the same exact sense, there is direct proof of violation that we see every day that NO action is taken on, unlike your story where you have NO proof and just " a hunch" or "suspicion" and DO want action taken on. It's unreal how backwards you goons are. That bothers me to no end!
You are certainly entitled to your opinion. I feel no need to counter your ridiculous comments. I hope you enjoyed yourself

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Teddyredrock 55M
11 posts
7/17/2018 11:46 am

pal334 ,
SimpleLatina,
superbjversion2,
sweet_VM,
Tmptrzz

where is any of your proof and evidence that the man being accused is actually in the wrong???? this is all hearsay coming from pal334 that's based entirely on assumptions. assumptions you each should be ashamed of. this isnt how US law works and this really is why the Constitution protects us from this kind of stuff so that when people make claims about someone else with no proof that they arent hung for it from hunches or suspicions like Heels_N_Squeals noted. people are indeed innocent until proven guilty. all of you people call this guy out like he's guilty. where is your proof and evidence? it doesn't exist and is based on hearsay and assumptions. has he been tried and found guilty? no. the only one on this blog who is a straight shooter and understands any of this seems to be Heels_N_Squeals. the rest of you people here seems to be snails when it comes to understanding basic US law 101. hate to have any of you on a jury. bunch of idiots. nicely put Heels_N_Squeals. agree with you all the way.


pocogato12 71F  
37235 posts
7/17/2018 1:58 pm

pal: too bad someone had to take your blog post and turn it into her personal rant. I wish I could apologize for her but that's impossible. Her anger and bitterness have no antidote. She should be ashamed of using another person's blog for her self-aggrandizement. Perfect example of a HEEL

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pal334 69M  
45821 posts
7/17/2018 2:01 pm

    Quoting SimpleLatina:
    They are such an embarrassment to themselves. I have no respect for these thief's
It is a shame, they are not worthy of respect

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pal334 69M  
45821 posts
7/17/2018 2:03 pm

    Quoting superbjversion2:
    Yes, it bothers me ... liars always do. Unfortunately, I would not recognize an imposter to report.

    Thank you for your service, Pal!
That is what they are. Sometimes the nuances are very difficult to determine. And thank you

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pal334 69M  
45821 posts
7/17/2018 2:07 pm

    Quoting myelin36:
    I love the HYPOCRISY of a member who chooses to flame EVERYONE who DISAGREES with HER opinion.

    The very person flaming you for this blog post expresses her opinion that "military personnel are creeps." Yes, that is HER opinion. Thankfully she is NOT the majority. As a veteran who has fought for her to throw her" free speech" card around among other civil liberties I'm sure she takes for granted, her attitude disgusts me.

    If you are so upset about how our government is run then DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. Leave the country. Denounce your citizenship. But for fuck sakes, quit hiding out in the blogs whining like a little bitch.
Thank you. I am leaving the post . She does indeed have free speech, which I support. This allows others to see how she uses her right to speak

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pal334 69M  
45821 posts
7/17/2018 2:10 pm

    Quoting Heels_N_Squeals:
    And by the way, when it comes to the flag stuff, like you said, "why steal it"? We have a pre-existing U.S. flag. Each color of the red ( hardiness and valor ), white ( purity and innocence ) and blue ( vigilance, perseverance and justice ) have specific meaning, so why alter the colors to symbolize what you goons want them to mean? Why? Because of your knuckleheaded and bold headed mentality!

    How ironic I find that you post the Stolen Valor Act of 2013 here, yet the military directly defaces the U.S. flag with it's shitty "green line" flag, which directly contradicts what the original colors of the U.S. flag represent ( red = valor; white = purity; blue = justice ). I laugh how you stand for valor, yet the military goes on to alter and deface the flag's red valor symbolic meaning. Same goes for purity....altering a flag no longer means the same symbolic meaning in purity. And then justice when you omit the blue symbolic meaning...
    Justice: the administration of the law or authority in maintaining this.
    This is laughable! Where's the justice in law and authority to maintain the original U.S. flag's colors/meaning when the very people who should be maintaining and upholding it's symbolism are the ones who are directly behind destroying the symbolic meaning. Not only do they alter it's meaning, but they actually go as far as supporting it's new " ___ line" meaning and are even proud to alter it's desecration. Then these are the goons who say "I'm proud to be an all American" and "I'm proud to serve and protect this country" and "This is the best country on earth", yet you people do nothing but trash our foundation .
    Military, LE.O.'S, ETC... take an oath. That oath is to simply taken to NOT violate the constitution, but it's to defend against those who are violating it. So why do these "___ line" type flags exist when U.S. Flag Code clearly outlines the fact that it's unlawful to do so? Who is defending against these type of flags to not exist? Answer: Nobody! Why: Because you men are ignorant goons! In fact, you men in the military, L.E.O. and fire actually all encourage them and stand proud by the newly adopted flags, even though you're in direct violation and do nothing to uphold to what any of those took an oath is put in position to do.

    So don't sit up here creating these outrageous blogs accusing someone who you have no proof against, yet having the entire military, L.E.O. and fire now encouraging violations blatantly right in front our faces. That's a disgrace to what this country is founded upon!
You obviously have some sort of vendetta. I allow this point to stay here (Yes it is my choice not yours) . To see what you say and your way of saying it

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pal334 69M  
45821 posts
7/17/2018 2:15 pm

    Quoting Heels_N_Squeals:
    myelin36

    My point proven again. That's the simple-minded mentality of how you were trained to think. You are clueless!

    You're right, I said "my opinion" and I chose my wording carefully from the start to include that as to not get panties in a knot by others.

    "Thankfully she is NOT the majority."
    Thankfully for the dumbed-down, that is. In fact, if most were as diligent, this country wouldn't be in it's deplorable condition as it now is. It's those who are now in these branches who are the most blind to the corruption.

    "As a veteran who has fought for her to throw her" free speech" card around among other civil liberties I'm sure she takes for granted..."
    Again, there's the same knuckleheaded mentality that modern military members have surfacing again. You're assuming something that's not true. If I took free speech for granted or other civil liberties, then why would I make an effort to come here at all and voice my opinions on what is wrong with the picture at all? You make no sense. It's only those who keep quiet, let things slip by or take things with a grain of salt as our rights are diminishing each day, the ones who take things for granted. My grandfathers both served in WW2. I'm not ignorant to the fact that my rights are a precious commodity.

    "...her attitude disgusts me."
    Yours disgusts me, too. Why does mine disgust you? For telling the truth of why people like you who take an oath don't defend it or defend against those who try to violate the law? Give me a break!

    "If you are so upset about how our government is run then DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. "
    My point proven! Why do "green line" military flags exist? You took an oath to the military, correct? Why didn't YOU defend against upholding a violation so the U.S. flag is preserved? This is why YOU are in the position, this is why YOU took the oath. WHAT HAVE YOU DONE ABOUT IT??? Answer: Nothing!

    "Leave the country. Denounce your citizenship"
    Oh yeah, the person who is diligent, understands her rights and understands that YOU aren't doing your job for ME is the one who should leave my country of citizenship? You're clueless and ignorant!

    "But for fuck sakes, quit hiding out in the blogs whining like a little bitch."
    There's the knuckleheaded military mentality for you once again. So some guy comes here, PUBLICLY posts his blog and feels a need to vent and whine about the Valor Act. That's fine and all, but again, it's publicly posted for ALL to chime in. We're all entitled to voice our opinions, whether you think they are negative or positive, whether we agree or disagree with the blog poster. So you see nothing wrong with the blogger posting hiding out in blogs, whining like a little bitch....yet when I give my opinionated voice, suddenly I'm singled out as being the "whining little bitch who is hiding out in blogs". Do I even need to address your own actions as similarly whining, hiding out in this very same blog and voicing your own opinions on a PUBLIC blog? Laughable!!! Ignorant to the fact that you're on the same level as I am, same freedom of rights that I do, yet you likely expect a gold medal or for me to thank you for your services or for not doing your part to uphold the oath you took. Give me a break! Until you can explain to me a reason why these shitty "___ line" flags exist, then you haven't upheld your part in preserving my rights and freedoms for the oath YOU took to preserve them FOR ME, as an American. Clueless!
My hope is that more folks see what and how you say things

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pal334 69M  
45821 posts
7/17/2018 2:17 pm

    Quoting sweet_VM:
    Very sad this is still happening. Even in Canada they are still trying to get a discount and something for free. My question is as well why? They always seem to get caught don’t they. Great post Pal. Hugs V
I am just happy that there are legal penalties for their actions

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pal334 69M  
45821 posts
7/17/2018 2:18 pm

    Quoting Tmptrzz:
    That's a real shame when this stuff happens I am so glad the police were there to handle this man. Happy Tuesday Pal, I hope you have a terrific day..
It is a problem. Maybe it can be stopped

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pal334 69M  
45821 posts
7/17/2018 2:22 pm

    Quoting Teddyredrock:
    pal334 ,
    SimpleLatina,
    superbjversion2,
    sweet_VM,
    Tmptrzz

    where is any of your proof and evidence that the man being accused is actually in the wrong???? this is all hearsay coming from pal334 that's based entirely on assumptions. assumptions you each should be ashamed of. this isnt how US law works and this really is why the Constitution protects us from this kind of stuff so that when people make claims about someone else with no proof that they arent hung for it from hunches or suspicions like Heels_N_Squeals noted. people are indeed innocent until proven guilty. all of you people call this guy out like he's guilty. where is your proof and evidence? it doesn't exist and is based on hearsay and assumptions. has he been tried and found guilty? no. the only one on this blog who is a straight shooter and understands any of this seems to be Heels_N_Squeals. the rest of you people here seems to be snails when it comes to understanding basic US law 101. hate to have any of you on a jury. bunch of idiots. nicely put Heels_N_Squeals. agree with you all the way.
sighing,,,,, You know so little. The man is being accused of violating this law. He will of course be given a chance to defend himself. Hearsay, is what you think. My observation of an incident . I am making no defense, I leave your post to allow others to see what you said , not with any agreement on my part

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pal334 69M  
45821 posts
7/17/2018 2:24 pm

    Quoting pocogato12:
    pal: too bad someone had to take your blog post and turn it into her personal rant. I wish I could apologize for her but that's impossible. Her anger and bitterness have no antidote. She should be ashamed of using another person's blog for her self-aggrandizement. Perfect example of a HEEL
Being public allows this to happen. I leave the comments stand to be representative of them.

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myelin36 53F
3612 posts
7/18/2018 5:20 am

And I am wondering how many fake profiles that this member had to make so that she could vote to agree on her posts and disagree on others. Suspicious that these other "eight people" didn't chime in on your blog. I would have the abuse team investigate her for possible fake profiles.

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Heels_N_Squeals 50F
68 posts
7/18/2018 11:24 am

pal334: Let me first say that my intent here isn't to be argumentative. I'm merely voicing my opinions ( yes, my freedom of speech, myelin36 ) on an open and public blog and my intent is only in pointing out what is so wrong with this story that you are overlooking. Now on to it...:

"You are certainly entitled to your opinion."
Thank you for respecting that...and yes I am.

" I feel no need to counter your ridiculous comments. I hope you enjoyed yourself"
You call basic understanding of law and Constitution "ridiculous"? You cannot counter my comments because I have made valid points that you cannot answer without looking silly if you were to be honest and adult in addressing those points. What's the easiest outlet for you that wouldn't make you look silly on your own blog? To simply ignore and override all the factual points I make and simply call someone out as "vendetta"...and that's exactly how the knuckleheaded military/L.E.O.'S operate in public. They'll just simply bully, override and ignore a citizen's rights much of the time just to make it a point that "I won this battle", when all you're really doing is working for "the man" and destroying our liberties in doing so.

So let's review in summary my valid points that you refuse to answer and that you call "ridiculous comments:
1 .) I suppose I'm ridiculous by taking notice to the fact that you are accusing someone of being in the process of a crime in which you have no factual proof of. You're accusing him solely on a "hunch" or "suspicion", not fact, proof and evidence. The Constitution protects us from this sort of behavior. This isn't the Salem Witch Trials where anyone who is accused of being a witch is burned at the stake. Remember, everyone is innocent until proven guilty. Your mentality here is that this person is already guilty and you're looking to lock him up without having any proof, evidence or having the suspect tried and proven guilty. This is where you are wrong! Where is your articulable proof that a crime has been committed and how can that evidence be attained lawfully by an average citizen to provide to the authorities? My point proven...you have no proof. It's all a "hunch" of "suspicion" simply based on the way he was dressed or by raising his voice or by not having a military ID on hand ( however you know that ), which means nothing lawfully evidence-wise.
Silly example: A fun friend I knew years ago was a good guy, fun guy, life of the party. He was a genuinely nice guy...his only weakness was that he like the 420 thing. He ( laughingly ) told me once that the reason he wore a D.A.R.E. tee shirt was to detract suspicion and to give the illusion that he supported non-drug users. Moral of this example: Just because someone wears a D.A.R.E. shirt doesn't mean that the person isn't a non-drug user and just because someone dressed sloppily in a military outfit doesn't mean that the person isn't military. Maybe the individual was having a bad day...how do you know this individual's life? Our laws and Constitution allow us to dress how we wish and to say what we want to say ( within reason [insert yelling "fire" in a movie theatre example here] ). So sure, you can say what you want about this person and even accuse them. That's your right to do so, but that doesn't mean that your word is absolute Law or God, does it? No!

2 .) I suppose I'm ridiculous by taking notice to the fact that the shop clerk rang someone's order up WITH a military sales discount, even though that clerk overrode the shop's sales policy without seeing proof of a military ID being presented. All the person had to do to override the clerk's policy was to raise his voice. Interesting! Maybe the next time I'm at the grocery store, the gas pump or purchasing a new car I'll simply raise my voice and see if I can soak up the discounts. Talk about ridiculous, huh? Smh!

3 .) I suppose I'm ridiculous by wondering why two average citizens ( you and your friend ) would have anything to do with any of this and why you felt a need to accuse someone whom you had no proof of whether this man WAS or WAS NOT a military member. Again, who are you both...God? NO! Law enforcement? NO! You are two average citizens who are acting on a "hunch" and "suspicion", so sit back down, you have no reason to be approaching someone and accusing them of something. I can think of a million stereotyping examples in the course of an average day. You can think what you want about someone who is dressed/acts a certain way. Doesn't mean your thoughts are factual of who/what that person really is.

4 .) I suppose I'm ridiculous by taking notice to the fact that you post The Stolen Valor Act of 2013, yet on the contrary, military members and L.E.O. go on to deface the American flag and override the U.S. Flag Code, Section 176 (g), replacing the red, white and blue stripes with black, white and green, yet that perfectly seen as acceptable? No, it's not acceptable! Period! You take an oath to uphold while taken your positions. That oath is for you to not only uphold the law and the rights of the citizens you are going in to service to protect, but it's also an oath to protect against those who are in violation. We put military and L.E.O.'s in position to serve and protect ( and by protect, not just our physical selves, but protect our rights and liberties ). So what have you done in your part to preserve MY original U.S. flag that's being altered to a now black, white and green striped flag? Answer: Nothing. Point proven. Those who are put in to position to protect us, do just the opposite of preservation. And I see you made not a single attempt to touch base on anything regarding the U.S. Flag code that I described. Again, easier to ignore things and watch our liberties decay than it is to address them and take action....and that's the exact point I make here. If you'd spend as much time addressing violations that you have absolute proof of, such as the flag, rather than addressing someone who you have no proof of and just "hunches" and "suspicions", then maybe we'd see positive results.

"That is what they are. Sometimes the nuances are very difficult to determine."
Once again, who are you? Hogan's Heroes? That's the problem with you military folks. You have this enormous "conquer the world" ego. Let me remind you that you are an ordinary citizen just like the rest of us. You aren't granted some secret service investigator badge that you have to be out there trying to determine who is an impostor and who isn't. That's the job of the authorities, not yours. If you have no physical evidence that someone is in violation or committing a crime, then you have no business to be out there sticking your nose in everyone's business who is leisurely out in public. You make it sound like you're on duty, like it's your job that you're an investigator. You're not! You're an average citizen like the rest of us, so come down to our level and drop this goofy ego.

"Thank you. I am leaving the post ."
Because you have no answers to the valid factual points I describe.

"She does indeed have free speech, which I support. This allows others to see how she uses her right to speak"
Again, I applaud you for allowing my to voice my opinions here freely and without being screened. I sincerely appreciate it! See how easy it is to comply with law/Constitution when you actually understand the basics ( in this case, free speech )? It's too bad it has to be this difficult to be on the same page with things when it comes to the other rights that I'm here discussing with you.

"You obviously have some sort of vendetta. I allow this point to stay here (Yes it is my choice not yours) . To see what you say and your way of saying it"
It's a matter of getting the point across that I value my rights and value my country and the freedoms I have, contrary to how you all make me out to be. You go around accusing others of being in violation of the Stolen Valor Act, yet where's your proof and evidence? That's exactly the point I make. You haven't any evidence...just a "hunch" and "suspicion"...that isn't proof/evidence. Then having an innocent man being haggled by the police because you fueled claims against him is simply wrong! That's not America! That's North Korea! If we went back in time several hundred years to the time our founding fathers were around, there is no way they would have stood for this sort of behavior. This is exactly why they founded this country the way they did, because they were sick and tired of the way England was being run and wanted to start a new country fresh FOR We The People. Understand?

"My hope is that more folks see what and how you say things"
So do I! Maybe they'll learn a few basic things on how this country actually works and why the Constitution and laws are put in to place to benefit and protect it's citizens. The way you make it out to be is just the opposite of what these things are there to protect us from.

"I am just happy that there are legal penalties for their actions"
Considering someone is caught in the act of violation and lawful evidence
is provided, then yes, I agree. However, violating someone to achieve evidence is NOT lawful. In that case, two wrongs do NOT make a right.

"It is a problem. Maybe it can be stopped"
It can't be stopped! The problem being is that you're dealing with the repercussions of the corrupt system of the monetary society that we exist in. Have you ever heard of the term "money is the root of all evils"? This is absolutely true! If all that someone has to do is dress up in a military uniform or raise his/her voice for extra monetary discounts, then you have to realize that the root cause here is that you're dealing with money. Has nothing to do with someone wanting to dress up in a military uniform. If people could get a monetary discount, they'd dress up as Bozo the Clown, Jesus or Hitler. Wearing a military uniform is irrelevant. Nobody cares what the outfit is, as long as they get discounts. All that people want from doing so are monetary discounts ( or attention ). Like all corrupt things based around money ( including this site, drugs, gangs, wars, politics, etc... ), you cannot stop them unless you eliminate the root source. That source being money. "Nuff said.

"sighing,,,,, You know so little. The man is being accused of violating this law. He will of course be given a chance to defend himself. Hearsay, is what you think. My observation of an incident . I am making no defense, I leave your post to allow others to see what you said , not with any agreement on my part"
And why exactly do you disagree with this person? I applaud him! You say "the man is being accused of violating this law"...and what is the basis of these accusations, anyway? A "hunch" or "suspicion" isn't proof/evidence that can be upheld in the court room. So who is the accuser? You and your buddy that sit in some coffee shop and "think" that someone is "guilty", without having any solid proof in advance. Give me a break! Again, this isn't how American law works. You make no defense because you make no sense and are ignorant to the laws that protect us....therefore, you know so little on the matter. Courts are based on proof and evidence. Where is yours PRIOR to accusations?

"Being public allows this to happen. I leave the comments stand to be representative of them."
Once again, I applaud you for your understanding that this blog is posted in the public domain and therefore I'm merely voicing my opinions and exercising my freedom of speech openly. I sincerely appreciate your respect to observing my right to do this. See, I'm not a nasty or bitter person at all. I value my rights, that's all. When things are understood, then every point I make here on this blog should be as fluid and as simple to understand as the Freedom of Speech that you recognize here. That's the only real point I make. Follow the law/Constitution and respect other citizen's rights. It's just that simple. You aren't The Law yourself, nor are you above the Law, nor are you some private investigator, etc... You're an average U.S. citizen like the rest of us. My only point is that you come down to the level of the rest of ordinary citizens, drop this "take over the world" ego and respect our rights. Simple! It really doesn't have to be this hard to follow basic understanding of what things are there that protect us. Again, I thank you for respecting my right to openly voice myself here. And one more thing, although I do refer to it as myself giving "opinions", for the most part, what I'm really doing is stating facts, not opinions.

Good day to you.


Heels_N_Squeals 50F
68 posts
7/18/2018 11:42 am

Teddyredrock: I concur and applaud you, Sir. You are a true American who is diligent in understanding basic rights that we all here should know. I sincerely appreciate your comment and wholeheartedly agree with you!


Heels_N_Squeals 50F
68 posts
7/18/2018 12:05 pm

pocogato12: So let me get this straight...just because I understand basic law that you apparently are ignorant of, should translate into me being ashamed of something? You're too blind to realize that I'm angry and bitter due to the fact that nobody seems to understand basic rights that protect us. Your ignorance to that fact is eventually going to translate Americans into losing their freedoms and liberties without even realizing they have had them all the while. That's the exact point I make here on this blog! Our Constitution is put in place to protect it's citizens. If I throw a brick through your living room window, then blame a bypasser on the sidewalk, is the bypasser fined, locked up, shot or hung for the accusations? No! Both the bypasser and the actual person who threw the brick are both INNOCENT. Now, when proof through evidence comes back that a CCTV surveillance camera footage caught the person who threw the brick, along with fingerprints on the brick, then that person is STILL INNOCENT UNTIL that person is tried and either pleads guilt or has been found to be guilty by a jury. It's amazing how ignorant the American people truly seem to be when it comes to basic understanding of their rights. Is it any real wonder then why the government takes advantage of our ignorance?

"Self-aggrandizement"
Perhaps re-read what all has been said here by me on this blog thus far. I have made multiple attempts to say that this blog poster pal334 is just an ordinary citizen here like the rest of us, although he somehow feels he has some sort of authority that the rest of us don't. Me self-aggrandizement? You have the story reversed, cupcake...I have made it clear that I'm not any more powerful or important than pal334 is, and vice versa. On the other hand, pal334 shows this level of self-aggrandizement...feeling the need to get up and address an innocent person, escalating accusations to police, making claims without having proof. You have the story backwards of who is trying to be powerful or important in the matter and it's not me.

Just another person here who is clueless and ignorant to basic understanding of law and civil rights.


Heels_N_Squeals 50F
68 posts
7/18/2018 12:34 pm

myelin36: Oh yeah, sweetie...like I'd have time or an actual need to come on this site and create eight accounts, sign in and out of each one of those just to make votes. Give me a break! Signing in and out alone would likely take quite an effort and time. I don't live here on this site. Having that much idle time on my hands and I'd expect to receive a pay check if I were to go through all of that trouble just for the mere sake of voting up/down.

And of course you're clueless with your knuckleheaded mentality once again. Easy to point a finger and accuse rather than to provide evidence, which you haven't any to back up your claim. You even said it in your own words...."suspicious". Suspicion isn't proof/evidence of anything. And that's the military mentality I'm speaking of. You base your "proof" off of "suspicion" and "hunches"....which mean nothing. This same goofy mentality is reflected in the real world when you serve....which is exactly everything that's wrong with the picture and which are the valid points I'm pointing out in this blog.

What's more, you are just as every bit as bad as pal334. He blames some innocent citizen and makes accusations....while you blame me and make accusations that you have no proof or evidence of, only "suspicion". You'd like to report me to the AdultFriendFinder abuse investigative team? That's laughable! Let me explain: This site is a business, nothing more. It's one and only mission: To generate monetary profit! That's all. It doesn't care about you, me or anyone else here. It doesn't care if anyone gets laid or talked down to or mistreated verbally. If there is no money to be made for this site to investigate, then they honestly don't give a rat's ass about anything, bluntly put.
A while back I had a major issue with one member here who would actually make threats to ki*nap me and ra*e me. I blocked him, yet somehow his IM's were't filtered and kept coming across to me. This went on very regularly...at first I was polite and asked him to please not use that language, later on I began telling him to buzz off and ignored his IM's. Nothing worked and he was persistent in his threats and the IM's still came in to my IM inbox. In the course of it all, I reported this member close to a dozen times to the site's report team, including the text messages I received, along with time stamped dates/times of the incidents.....nothing was ever done about it by the site! Why? Because there is no money to be made by the site in removing a paying gold member from the site. Let me remind you again, this was dealing with threats of ki*nap and ra*e, not accusations of simply someone having multiple accounts. So again, if you feel that the investigative team here gives a damn or has the time to look into that, then you're fooling yourself and could care less if no money is being made by doing so. Again, laughable...not only because you accuse me of having time to create eight accounts and logging on/off them all, but to think that the site actually gives a damn about anyone here. It doesn't!


pal334 69M  
45821 posts
7/18/2018 1:51 pm

    Quoting myelin36:
    And I am wondering how many fake profiles that this member had to make so that she could vote to agree on her posts and disagree on others. Suspicious that these other "eight people" didn't chime in on your blog. I would have the abuse team investigate her for possible fake profiles.
It Is not worth my time

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pal334 69M  
45821 posts
7/18/2018 3:42 pm

    Quoting Heels_N_Squeals:
    pal334: Let me first say that my intent here isn't to be argumentative. I'm merely voicing my opinions ( yes, my freedom of speech, myelin36 ) on an open and public blog and my intent is only in pointing out what is so wrong with this story that you are overlooking. Now on to it...:

    "You are certainly entitled to your opinion."
    Thank you for respecting that...and yes I am.

    " I feel no need to counter your ridiculous comments. I hope you enjoyed yourself"
    You call basic understanding of law and Constitution "ridiculous"? You cannot counter my comments because I have made valid points that you cannot answer without looking silly if you were to be honest and adult in addressing those points. What's the easiest outlet for you that wouldn't make you look silly on your own blog? To simply ignore and override all the factual points I make and simply call someone out as "vendetta"...and that's exactly how the knuckleheaded military/L.E.O.'S operate in public. They'll just simply bully, override and ignore a citizen's rights much of the time just to make it a point that "I won this battle", when all you're really doing is working for "the man" and destroying our liberties in doing so.

    So let's review in summary my valid points that you refuse to answer and that you call "ridiculous comments:
    1 .) I suppose I'm ridiculous by taking notice to the fact that you are accusing someone of being in the process of a crime in which you have no factual proof of. You're accusing him solely on a "hunch" or "suspicion", not fact, proof and evidence. The Constitution protects us from this sort of behavior. This isn't the Salem Witch Trials where anyone who is accused of being a witch is burned at the stake. Remember, everyone is innocent until proven guilty. Your mentality here is that this person is already guilty and you're looking to lock him up without having any proof, evidence or having the suspect tried and proven guilty. This is where you are wrong! Where is your articulable proof that a crime has been committed and how can that evidence be attained lawfully by an average citizen to provide to the authorities? My point proven...you have no proof. It's all a "hunch" of "suspicion" simply based on the way he was dressed or by raising his voice or by not having a military ID on hand ( however you know that ), which means nothing lawfully evidence-wise.
    Silly example: A fun friend I knew years ago was a good guy, fun guy, life of the party. He was a genuinely nice guy...his only weakness was that he like the 420 thing. He ( laughingly ) told me once that the reason he wore a D.A.R.E. tee shirt was to detract suspicion and to give the illusion that he supported non-drug users. Moral of this example: Just because someone wears a D.A.R.E. shirt doesn't mean that the person isn't a non-drug user and just because someone dressed sloppily in a military outfit doesn't mean that the person isn't military. Maybe the individual was having a bad day...how do you know this individual's life? Our laws and Constitution allow us to dress how we wish and to say what we want to say ( within reason [insert yelling "fire" in a movie theatre example here] ). So sure, you can say what you want about this person and even accuse them. That's your right to do so, but that doesn't mean that your word is absolute Law or God, does it? No!

    2 .) I suppose I'm ridiculous by taking notice to the fact that the shop clerk rang someone's order up WITH a military sales discount, even though that clerk overrode the shop's sales policy without seeing proof of a military ID being presented. All the person had to do to override the clerk's policy was to raise his voice. Interesting! Maybe the next time I'm at the grocery store, the gas pump or purchasing a new car I'll simply raise my voice and see if I can soak up the discounts. Talk about ridiculous, huh? Smh!

    3 .) I suppose I'm ridiculous by wondering why two average citizens ( you and your friend ) would have anything to do with any of this and why you felt a need to accuse someone whom you had no proof of whether this man WAS or WAS NOT a military member. Again, who are you both...God? NO! Law enforcement? NO! You are two average citizens who are acting on a "hunch" and "suspicion", so sit back down, you have no reason to be approaching someone and accusing them of something. I can think of a million stereotyping examples in the course of an average day. You can think what you want about someone who is dressed/acts a certain way. Doesn't mean your thoughts are factual of who/what that person really is.

    4 .) I suppose I'm ridiculous by taking notice to the fact that you post The Stolen Valor Act of 2013, yet on the contrary, military members and L.E.O. go on to deface the American flag and override the U.S. Flag Code, Section 176 (g), replacing the red, white and blue stripes with black, white and green, yet that perfectly seen as acceptable? No, it's not acceptable! Period! You take an oath to uphold while taken your positions. That oath is for you to not only uphold the law and the rights of the citizens you are going in to service to protect, but it's also an oath to protect against those who are in violation. We put military and L.E.O.'s in position to serve and protect ( and by protect, not just our physical selves, but protect our rights and liberties ). So what have you done in your part to preserve MY original U.S. flag that's being altered to a now black, white and green striped flag? Answer: Nothing. Point proven. Those who are put in to position to protect us, do just the opposite of preservation. And I see you made not a single attempt to touch base on anything regarding the U.S. Flag code that I described. Again, easier to ignore things and watch our liberties decay than it is to address them and take action....and that's the exact point I make here. If you'd spend as much time addressing violations that you have absolute proof of, such as the flag, rather than addressing someone who you have no proof of and just "hunches" and "suspicions", then maybe we'd see positive results.

    "That is what they are. Sometimes the nuances are very difficult to determine."
    Once again, who are you? Hogan's Heroes? That's the problem with you military folks. You have this enormous "conquer the world" ego. Let me remind you that you are an ordinary citizen just like the rest of us. You aren't granted some secret service investigator badge that you have to be out there trying to determine who is an impostor and who isn't. That's the job of the authorities, not yours. If you have no physical evidence that someone is in violation or committing a crime, then you have no business to be out there sticking your nose in everyone's business who is leisurely out in public. You make it sound like you're on duty, like it's your job that you're an investigator. You're not! You're an average citizen like the rest of us, so come down to our level and drop this goofy ego.

    "Thank you. I am leaving the post ."
    Because you have no answers to the valid factual points I describe.

    "She does indeed have free speech, which I support. This allows others to see how she uses her right to speak"
    Again, I applaud you for allowing my to voice my opinions here freely and without being screened. I sincerely appreciate it! See how easy it is to comply with law/Constitution when you actually understand the basics ( in this case, free speech )? It's too bad it has to be this difficult to be on the same page with things when it comes to the other rights that I'm here discussing with you.

    "You obviously have some sort of vendetta. I allow this point to stay here (Yes it is my choice not yours) . To see what you say and your way of saying it"
    It's a matter of getting the point across that I value my rights and value my country and the freedoms I have, contrary to how you all make me out to be. You go around accusing others of being in violation of the Stolen Valor Act, yet where's your proof and evidence? That's exactly the point I make. You haven't any evidence...just a "hunch" and "suspicion"...that isn't proof/evidence. Then having an innocent man being haggled by the police because you fueled claims against him is simply wrong! That's not America! That's North Korea! If we went back in time several hundred years to the time our founding fathers were around, there is no way they would have stood for this sort of behavior. This is exactly why they founded this country the way they did, because they were sick and tired of the way England was being run and wanted to start a new country fresh FOR We The People. Understand?

    "My hope is that more folks see what and how you say things"
    So do I! Maybe they'll learn a few basic things on how this country actually works and why the Constitution and laws are put in to place to benefit and protect it's citizens. The way you make it out to be is just the opposite of what these things are there to protect us from.

    "I am just happy that there are legal penalties for their actions"
    Considering someone is caught in the act of violation and lawful evidence
    is provided, then yes, I agree. However, violating someone to achieve evidence is NOT lawful. In that case, two wrongs do NOT make a right.

    "It is a problem. Maybe it can be stopped"
    It can't be stopped! The problem being is that you're dealing with the repercussions of the corrupt system of the monetary society that we exist in. Have you ever heard of the term "money is the root of all evils"? This is absolutely true! If all that someone has to do is dress up in a military uniform or raise his/her voice for extra monetary discounts, then you have to realize that the root cause here is that you're dealing with money. Has nothing to do with someone wanting to dress up in a military uniform. If people could get a monetary discount, they'd dress up as Bozo the Clown, Jesus or Hitler. Wearing a military uniform is irrelevant. Nobody cares what the outfit is, as long as they get discounts. All that people want from doing so are monetary discounts ( or attention ). Like all corrupt things based around money ( including this site, drugs, gangs, wars, politics, etc... ), you cannot stop them unless you eliminate the root source. That source being money. "Nuff said.

    "sighing,,,,, You know so little. The man is being accused of violating this law. He will of course be given a chance to defend himself. Hearsay, is what you think. My observation of an incident . I am making no defense, I leave your post to allow others to see what you said , not with any agreement on my part"
    And why exactly do you disagree with this person? I applaud him! You say "the man is being accused of violating this law"...and what is the basis of these accusations, anyway? A "hunch" or "suspicion" isn't proof/evidence that can be upheld in the court room. So who is the accuser? You and your buddy that sit in some coffee shop and "think" that someone is "guilty", without having any solid proof in advance. Give me a break! Again, this isn't how American law works. You make no defense because you make no sense and are ignorant to the laws that protect us....therefore, you know so little on the matter. Courts are based on proof and evidence. Where is yours PRIOR to accusations?

    "Being public allows this to happen. I leave the comments stand to be representative of them."
    Once again, I applaud you for your understanding that this blog is posted in the public domain and therefore I'm merely voicing my opinions and exercising my freedom of speech openly. I sincerely appreciate your respect to observing my right to do this. See, I'm not a nasty or bitter person at all. I value my rights, that's all. When things are understood, then every point I make here on this blog should be as fluid and as simple to understand as the Freedom of Speech that you recognize here. That's the only real point I make. Follow the law/Constitution and respect other citizen's rights. It's just that simple. You aren't The Law yourself, nor are you above the Law, nor are you some private investigator, etc... You're an average U.S. citizen like the rest of us. My only point is that you come down to the level of the rest of ordinary citizens, drop this "take over the world" ego and respect our rights. Simple! It really doesn't have to be this hard to follow basic understanding of what things are there that protect us. Again, I thank you for respecting my right to openly voice myself here. And one more thing, although I do refer to it as myself giving "opinions", for the most part, what I'm really doing is stating facts, not opinions.

    Good day to you.
Still leaving your post (s). I just wish they made sense to me

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pal334 69M  
45821 posts
7/18/2018 3:44 pm

    Quoting Heels_N_Squeals:
    Teddyredrock: I concur and applaud you, Sir. You are a true American who is diligent in understanding basic rights that we all here should know. I sincerely appreciate your comment and wholeheartedly agree with you!
Apparently the only "true American" that has participated

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pal334 69M  
45821 posts
7/18/2018 3:46 pm

    Quoting Heels_N_Squeals:
    pocogato12: So let me get this straight...just because I understand basic law that you apparently are ignorant of, should translate into me being ashamed of something? You're too blind to realize that I'm angry and bitter due to the fact that nobody seems to understand basic rights that protect us. Your ignorance to that fact is eventually going to translate Americans into losing their freedoms and liberties without even realizing they have had them all the while. That's the exact point I make here on this blog! Our Constitution is put in place to protect it's citizens. If I throw a brick through your living room window, then blame a bypasser on the sidewalk, is the bypasser fined, locked up, shot or hung for the accusations? No! Both the bypasser and the actual person who threw the brick are both INNOCENT. Now, when proof through evidence comes back that a CCTV surveillance camera footage caught the person who threw the brick, along with fingerprints on the brick, then that person is STILL INNOCENT UNTIL that person is tried and either pleads guilt or has been found to be guilty by a jury. It's amazing how ignorant the American people truly seem to be when it comes to basic understanding of their rights. Is it any real wonder then why the government takes advantage of our ignorance?

    "Self-aggrandizement"
    Perhaps re-read what all has been said here by me on this blog thus far. I have made multiple attempts to say that this blog poster pal334 is just an ordinary citizen here like the rest of us, although he somehow feels he has some sort of authority that the rest of us don't. Me self-aggrandizement? You have the story reversed, cupcake...I have made it clear that I'm not any more powerful or important than pal334 is, and vice versa. On the other hand, pal334 shows this level of self-aggrandizement...feeling the need to get up and address an innocent person, escalating accusations to police, making claims without having proof. You have the story backwards of who is trying to be powerful or important in the matter and it's not me.

    Just another person here who is clueless and ignorant to basic understanding of law and civil rights.
Leaving this stay as is

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pal334 69M  
45821 posts
7/18/2018 3:48 pm

    Quoting Heels_N_Squeals:
    myelin36: Oh yeah, sweetie...like I'd have time or an actual need to come on this site and create eight accounts, sign in and out of each one of those just to make votes. Give me a break! Signing in and out alone would likely take quite an effort and time. I don't live here on this site. Having that much idle time on my hands and I'd expect to receive a pay check if I were to go through all of that trouble just for the mere sake of voting up/down.

    And of course you're clueless with your knuckleheaded mentality once again. Easy to point a finger and accuse rather than to provide evidence, which you haven't any to back up your claim. You even said it in your own words...."suspicious". Suspicion isn't proof/evidence of anything. And that's the military mentality I'm speaking of. You base your "proof" off of "suspicion" and "hunches"....which mean nothing. This same goofy mentality is reflected in the real world when you serve....which is exactly everything that's wrong with the picture and which are the valid points I'm pointing out in this blog.

    What's more, you are just as every bit as bad as pal334. He blames some innocent citizen and makes accusations....while you blame me and make accusations that you have no proof or evidence of, only "suspicion". You'd like to report me to the AdultFriendFinder abuse investigative team? That's laughable! Let me explain: This site is a business, nothing more. It's one and only mission: To generate monetary profit! That's all. It doesn't care about you, me or anyone else here. It doesn't care if anyone gets laid or talked down to or mistreated verbally. If there is no money to be made for this site to investigate, then they honestly don't give a rat's ass about anything, bluntly put.
    A while back I had a major issue with one member here who would actually make threats to ki*nap me and ra*e me. I blocked him, yet somehow his IM's were't filtered and kept coming across to me. This went on very regularly...at first I was polite and asked him to please not use that language, later on I began telling him to buzz off and ignored his IM's. Nothing worked and he was persistent in his threats and the IM's still came in to my IM inbox. In the course of it all, I reported this member close to a dozen times to the site's report team, including the text messages I received, along with time stamped dates/times of the incidents.....nothing was ever done about it by the site! Why? Because there is no money to be made by the site in removing a paying gold member from the site. Let me remind you again, this was dealing with threats of ki*nap and ra*e, not accusations of simply someone having multiple accounts. So again, if you feel that the investigative team here gives a damn or has the time to look into that, then you're fooling yourself and could care less if no money is being made by doing so. Again, laughable...not only because you accuse me of having time to create eight accounts and logging on/off them all, but to think that the site actually gives a damn about anyone here. It doesn't!
As silly as I maybe, I am enjoying this.

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Heels_N_Squeals 50F
68 posts
7/18/2018 8:10 pm

"It Is not worth my time"
Nor is it mine to try to figure out someone's bogus theories. If someone doesn't believe me, so be it. If someone wants the site to investigate, have at it. I have nothing to hide.

"Still leaving your post (s). I just wish they made sense to me"
...And after all of my extremely detailed explaining on each specific topic so you would understand, do tell me, which parts of it do you not yet understand? I don't know how much more clear I could have been explaining each and every topic. A chimpanzee could comprehend this.

Go ahead, take my hand and try your best. We'll take baby steps here.
Let's start with the shop clerk. That's pretty basic and straight forward. Explain to me why the shop clerk rang up someone WITH a military discount who DID NOT submit military ID to the clerk if it's the shop's policy to ONLY give the discount to those military members who can prove they are/were in the military via a valid military ID. Come on now, don't dodge or ignore this question. Man up, step up to the plate and explain to me why this clerk rang up this man without an ID? He simply raised his voice and that intimidated the clerk so much that the policy was overridden? I mean you're accusing the so-called impostor 100%, yet there is no mention at all on blaming the clerk any, is there. Now tell me, what part of that can't you yet comprehend that doesn't add up and make sense??

"Apparently the only "true American" that has participated "
Your face pretty much says it all here. By that alone, it tells me that you're clueless and take nothing at all seriously when it comes to basic understanding of law and Constitution.....yet at the very same time, you want us all here to be so diligent to observe the Valor Act that you find to be so incredibly important. Again, this is why you military men are clueless creeps. You stand by what "you think" is right and just, yet have no knowledge at all when it comes to basic understanding of what our laws and Constitution are actually put in place for. Hint: It's put there to protect it's citizens from tyranny. Obviously you find tyranny a joke as you sit in a coffee shop, pretending you and your buddy are the Kings of the World with this untouchable imaginary authority of sorts to call out an innocent person, escalate a situation and slander someone without having any actual articulable evidence present PRIOR to your accusations against him. You're not at all a true American. You're clueless, uneducated and ignorant to understanding basic law. What's more,, you deny that fact, make faces at those who actually do understand what you do not, all because you cannot admit to your ignorance like a man, so instead resort to childish retort with your passive-aggressive table-turning tactics. Typical to those in these fields of work who ignore and dodge questions when they're put on the spot and don't have logical and factual answers to those questions.

"Leaving this stay as is"
As always, I kindly appreciate that you respect my right to voice myself on public blogs. Thank you very much!

"As silly as I maybe, I am enjoying this. "
Yeah, pretty much describes the ignorant clown you are for sure. Here's an idea: perhaps you should chime in to your own blogs with valid answers to the can of worms you have opened, rather than just write one-line idiotic comments and dodge/ignore questions and valid factual points I am presenting. Why be a blogger if you're not going to participate in a Q & A session to those you have reached out to via a public blog? Do you expect to post a blog and have every person agreeing with you? That's not the point of a blog. A blog is designed to bring up a topic and openly have other people chime in from all sides, whether it's a deep debate of sorts or whether or not it's a blogger asking the public who enjoys chocolate chip cookies. There's no point in blogging if you're expecting your viewers to unanimously agree 100% on whatever topic your blog pertains to. It's a discussion board, so please do chime in rather than ignore/dodge.

To start, I'm looking forward to the simple answer of why the shop clerk rang someone up without military ID presented and got away with a discount merely from raising his voice and intimidation tactics. ? Love to hear that.


pal334 69M  
45821 posts
7/19/2018 3:25 am

    Quoting Heels_N_Squeals:
    "It Is not worth my time"
    Nor is it mine to try to figure out someone's bogus theories. If someone doesn't believe me, so be it. If someone wants the site to investigate, have at it. I have nothing to hide.

    "Still leaving your post (s). I just wish they made sense to me"
    ...And after all of my extremely detailed explaining on each specific topic so you would understand, do tell me, which parts of it do you not yet understand? I don't know how much more clear I could have been explaining each and every topic. A chimpanzee could comprehend this.

    Go ahead, take my hand and try your best. We'll take baby steps here.
    Let's start with the shop clerk. That's pretty basic and straight forward. Explain to me why the shop clerk rang up someone WITH a military discount who DID NOT submit military ID to the clerk if it's the shop's policy to ONLY give the discount to those military members who can prove they are/were in the military via a valid military ID. Come on now, don't dodge or ignore this question. Man up, step up to the plate and explain to me why this clerk rang up this man without an ID? He simply raised his voice and that intimidated the clerk so much that the policy was overridden? I mean you're accusing the so-called impostor 100%, yet there is no mention at all on blaming the clerk any, is there. Now tell me, what part of that can't you yet comprehend that doesn't add up and make sense??

    "Apparently the only "true American" that has participated "
    Your face pretty much says it all here. By that alone, it tells me that you're clueless and take nothing at all seriously when it comes to basic understanding of law and Constitution.....yet at the very same time, you want us all here to be so diligent to observe the Valor Act that you find to be so incredibly important. Again, this is why you military men are clueless creeps. You stand by what "you think" is right and just, yet have no knowledge at all when it comes to basic understanding of what our laws and Constitution are actually put in place for. Hint: It's put there to protect it's citizens from tyranny. Obviously you find tyranny a joke as you sit in a coffee shop, pretending you and your buddy are the Kings of the World with this untouchable imaginary authority of sorts to call out an innocent person, escalate a situation and slander someone without having any actual articulable evidence present PRIOR to your accusations against him. You're not at all a true American. You're clueless, uneducated and ignorant to understanding basic law. What's more,, you deny that fact, make faces at those who actually do understand what you do not, all because you cannot admit to your ignorance like a man, so instead resort to childish retort with your passive-aggressive table-turning tactics. Typical to those in these fields of work who ignore and dodge questions when they're put on the spot and don't have logical and factual answers to those questions.

    "Leaving this stay as is"
    As always, I kindly appreciate that you respect my right to voice myself on public blogs. Thank you very much!

    "As silly as I maybe, I am enjoying this. "
    Yeah, pretty much describes the ignorant clown you are for sure. Here's an idea: perhaps you should chime in to your own blogs with valid answers to the can of worms you have opened, rather than just write one-line idiotic comments and dodge/ignore questions and valid factual points I am presenting. Why be a blogger if you're not going to participate in a Q & A session to those you have reached out to via a public blog? Do you expect to post a blog and have every person agreeing with you? That's not the point of a blog. A blog is designed to bring up a topic and openly have other people chime in from all sides, whether it's a deep debate of sorts or whether or not it's a blogger asking the public who enjoys chocolate chip cookies. There's no point in blogging if you're expecting your viewers to unanimously agree 100% on whatever topic your blog pertains to. It's a discussion board, so please do chime in rather than ignore/dodge.

    To start, I'm looking forward to the simple answer of why the shop clerk rang someone up without military ID presented and got away with a discount merely from raising his voice and intimidation tactics. ? Love to hear that.
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Rochblue 46F

7/19/2018 10:07 am

u are a corny fella pal334.


pal334 69M  
45821 posts
7/19/2018 2:24 pm

    Quoting Rochblue:
    u are a corny fella pal334.
If you say so

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FMAOPLS 70F
27112 posts
7/19/2018 6:50 pm

Of course, what he did was wrong - but I can't see how impersonating a member of the military by wearing a uniform when you are not entitled is equivalent to "fraudulently claim having received any of a series of particular military decorations with the intention of obtaining money, property, or other tangible benefit from convincing someone that he or she rightfully did receive that award".

Is there a law similar to "impersonating a police officer" that would apply?

Would a retired military member have ID which indicates there status, and are they offered discounts as well?

I'm Canadian, and not aware of how it works in your country.

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Heels_N_Squeals 50F
68 posts
7/19/2018 9:29 pm

"I have made it clear that all do not "have to" agree with my blogs. They come and go as they please"

It's not your blog or even the topic of this blog that I disagree with. You're right, if someone is impersonating a military member for malicious reasons, then he/she is in violation of the Valor Act and should be punished for it. I agree with that part of things. What I do NOT agree with is how you go about it all. First, the points I make here are not my opinion. I'm bringing up facts that you blatantly deny as if they aren't true or don't exist, therefore, I'm the crazy woman....all the while you sit back and ignore and deny facts. How can you deny fact? Fact isn't something in which is agreed or disagreed upon, it's merely what exists and there is no debating or denying facts.
Fact, water freezes at 32 degrees Fahrenheit.
Fact, the modern U.S. flag has 13 stripes and 50 stars on it.
Fact, the Earth is 93 million miles from the Sun.
Our country is built upon laws that protect us, as citizens. That's a fact! We're not living in the Middle Ages here or the Salem Witch Trials of the 1600's where someone is considered guilty merely by accusations and sent to the guillotine or funeral pyre just because a few people made accusations against someone. This is exactly what you and your buddy were doing. Where was your proof that this man was guilty? Because he raised his voice? Because he didn't have a military ID on hand? Because he was dressed a bit sloppy for a military member? That's not hard factual proof of anything in which would point to guilt or violation of law. So sit back down and mind your business! That's one of the parts of the story that I disagree on. Fact of the matter is that you cannot give me answers because you haven't any to give, which is why you opt to simply ignore/dodge my points I make altogether, which in turn is why I said from the start that all of you military type people are creeps. Clueless. You just want to run the show, but have no idea of what you're even doing. You entire jobs as military is to protect and serve your country and the citizens. You are supposed to be preserving the law, the rights and liberties of the citizens you have taken an oath to protect, yet you all lose scope of that once you are accepted in. Point being, no need for you to to interact with this person or to escalate accusations to a police officer. You should have honored this citizen's rights to raise his voice if he chose to do so or honored the way he dressed in uniform if he damn well chose to do so or was simply having a bad day....in just the same exact way you honor my right to voice myself here on this blog. Ironic how you clearly observe my right of free speech here, yet oblivious to others rights in very subtle and similar ways. "I went to the officer and requested that he verify the punks military status" ....Laughable! Again, who are you and your buddy, anyway? You both are nothing any more special than any other citizen in the shop. You both have no more authority...although your Mickey Mouse military mentality and sky high ego makes you think you both do. You don't! Period!

Back to the story and law...
Your story here tells your audience that:
* "I went to the officer and requested that he verify the punks military status."
* "He did not have a military ID"
* "he had a shopping bag with a receipt that showed he had gotten a military discount for sneakers"
* "We told the Policeman that we wanted to file charges against the man under the Stolen Valor Act."

Various thoughts come to mind...
First and foremost, it's your right to approach a police officer for whatever reason, but where is that police officer's probable cause for detainment of this individual???? None! Raising a voice isn't probable cause of a crime. Dressing sloppy isn't probable cause of a crime. So what is the officer's reason for detainment? There isn't any! So from how the story is described, this man is accused of impersonating a military member. The police officer stops and detains this man illegally without probable cause of a crime being committed.
The story continues...
* "He did not have a military ID"
* "he had a shopping bag with a receipt that showed he had gotten a military discount for sneakers"
So...not only was this man illegally detained, but this innocent citizen now was being illegally forced OR illegally searched of his personal possessions without probable cause and without a search warrant presented.
You still want to believe you aren't living in a police state yet?
Not having a military ID on hand, raising a voice to a clerk and dressing sloppy isn't probable cause at all! Hell, it's not even grounds for reasonable suspicion to grant the officer to obtain his sales receipt and to somehow find out that he didn't have a military ID on him ( whether that be he was frisked, searched or forced by intimidation/bodily harm to do so...whichever the case, it's all illegal activity! ).
Then after this entire fiasco, you knuckleheads say "we told the Policeman that we wanted to file charges against the man under the Stolen Valor Act."....in which you have no proof, no probable cause, no reasonable suspicion and no evidence against this individual whom was already violated/denied of his civil liberties already a this point. You are clueless!
What's more, judging by your location of NJ ( assuming where this incident took place ), NJ is NOT a stop and ID state. So even that is ruled out of the equation, too.

But let me guess, none of this stuff still makes any sense to you, right?

And by the way, nice going. How did I predict that you weren't going to answer my sales clerk question? Why? Because you don't have an answer to it. Your ignorance and nutty ego always reign supreme over logic and facts. Point proven over and over again, military people are ignorant clueless creeps!

Should I feel better at night when I go to sleep knowing that those who take the oath to serve, protect and uphold my rights and liberties are actually doing so? Absolutely not! I'm scared shitless! We put clueless people in power to uphold what they have no basic knowledge/understanding of in the first place. Meanwhile, I know that any moment my door can be busted down, my rights/liberties stripped from me...and all for what? For some ego-driven knucklehead that makes an false accusation against me for something I haven't committed? Give me a break. I fear for my life, my future and the future after I'm gone knowing that you uneducated ego-driven knuckleheads who have ONLY been trained to fight, win and take no for answers are in control of preserving my rights and my country, not just now, but for the future to come, as well.


pal334 69M  
45821 posts
7/20/2018 3:27 am

    Quoting FMAOPLS:
    Of course, what he did was wrong - but I can't see how impersonating a member of the military by wearing a uniform when you are not entitled is equivalent to "fraudulently claim having received any of a series of particular military decorations with the intention of obtaining money, property, or other tangible benefit from convincing someone that he or she rightfully did receive that award".

    Is there a law similar to "impersonating a police officer" that would apply?

    Would a retired military member have ID which indicates there status, and are they offered discounts as well?

    I'm Canadian, and not aware of how it works in your country.
The law is very clear on describing the violation. There is a law that covers impersonating a Law Enforcement officer. Retired military are issued Identification .

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pal334 69M  
45821 posts
7/20/2018 3:29 am

    Quoting Heels_N_Squeals:
    "I have made it clear that all do not "have to" agree with my blogs. They come and go as they please"

    It's not your blog or even the topic of this blog that I disagree with. You're right, if someone is impersonating a military member for malicious reasons, then he/she is in violation of the Valor Act and should be punished for it. I agree with that part of things. What I do NOT agree with is how you go about it all. First, the points I make here are not my opinion. I'm bringing up facts that you blatantly deny as if they aren't true or don't exist, therefore, I'm the crazy woman....all the while you sit back and ignore and deny facts. How can you deny fact? Fact isn't something in which is agreed or disagreed upon, it's merely what exists and there is no debating or denying facts.
    Fact, water freezes at 32 degrees Fahrenheit.
    Fact, the modern U.S. flag has 13 stripes and 50 stars on it.
    Fact, the Earth is 93 million miles from the Sun.
    Our country is built upon laws that protect us, as citizens. That's a fact! We're not living in the Middle Ages here or the Salem Witch Trials of the 1600's where someone is considered guilty merely by accusations and sent to the guillotine or funeral pyre just because a few people made accusations against someone. This is exactly what you and your buddy were doing. Where was your proof that this man was guilty? Because he raised his voice? Because he didn't have a military ID on hand? Because he was dressed a bit sloppy for a military member? That's not hard factual proof of anything in which would point to guilt or violation of law. So sit back down and mind your business! That's one of the parts of the story that I disagree on. Fact of the matter is that you cannot give me answers because you haven't any to give, which is why you opt to simply ignore/dodge my points I make altogether, which in turn is why I said from the start that all of you military type people are creeps. Clueless. You just want to run the show, but have no idea of what you're even doing. You entire jobs as military is to protect and serve your country and the citizens. You are supposed to be preserving the law, the rights and liberties of the citizens you have taken an oath to protect, yet you all lose scope of that once you are accepted in. Point being, no need for you to to interact with this person or to escalate accusations to a police officer. You should have honored this citizen's rights to raise his voice if he chose to do so or honored the way he dressed in uniform if he damn well chose to do so or was simply having a bad day....in just the same exact way you honor my right to voice myself here on this blog. Ironic how you clearly observe my right of free speech here, yet oblivious to others rights in very subtle and similar ways. "I went to the officer and requested that he verify the punks military status" ....Laughable! Again, who are you and your buddy, anyway? You both are nothing any more special than any other citizen in the shop. You both have no more authority...although your Mickey Mouse military mentality and sky high ego makes you think you both do. You don't! Period!

    Back to the story and law...
    Your story here tells your audience that:
    * "I went to the officer and requested that he verify the punks military status."
    * "He did not have a military ID"
    * "he had a shopping bag with a receipt that showed he had gotten a military discount for sneakers"
    * "We told the Policeman that we wanted to file charges against the man under the Stolen Valor Act."

    Various thoughts come to mind...
    First and foremost, it's your right to approach a police officer for whatever reason, but where is that police officer's probable cause for detainment of this individual???? None! Raising a voice isn't probable cause of a crime. Dressing sloppy isn't probable cause of a crime. So what is the officer's reason for detainment? There isn't any! So from how the story is described, this man is accused of impersonating a military member. The police officer stops and detains this man illegally without probable cause of a crime being committed.
    The story continues...
    * "He did not have a military ID"
    * "he had a shopping bag with a receipt that showed he had gotten a military discount for sneakers"
    So...not only was this man illegally detained, but this innocent citizen now was being illegally forced OR illegally searched of his personal possessions without probable cause and without a search warrant presented.
    You still want to believe you aren't living in a police state yet?
    Not having a military ID on hand, raising a voice to a clerk and dressing sloppy isn't probable cause at all! Hell, it's not even grounds for reasonable suspicion to grant the officer to obtain his sales receipt and to somehow find out that he didn't have a military ID on him ( whether that be he was frisked, searched or forced by intimidation/bodily harm to do so...whichever the case, it's all illegal activity! ).
    Then after this entire fiasco, you knuckleheads say "we told the Policeman that we wanted to file charges against the man under the Stolen Valor Act."....in which you have no proof, no probable cause, no reasonable suspicion and no evidence against this individual whom was already violated/denied of his civil liberties already a this point. You are clueless!
    What's more, judging by your location of NJ ( assuming where this incident took place ), NJ is NOT a stop and ID state. So even that is ruled out of the equation, too.

    But let me guess, none of this stuff still makes any sense to you, right?

    And by the way, nice going. How did I predict that you weren't going to answer my sales clerk question? Why? Because you don't have an answer to it. Your ignorance and nutty ego always reign supreme over logic and facts. Point proven over and over again, military people are ignorant clueless creeps!

    Should I feel better at night when I go to sleep knowing that those who take the oath to serve, protect and uphold my rights and liberties are actually doing so? Absolutely not! I'm scared shitless! We put clueless people in power to uphold what they have no basic knowledge/understanding of in the first place. Meanwhile, I know that any moment my door can be busted down, my rights/liberties stripped from me...and all for what? For some ego-driven knucklehead that makes an false accusation against me for something I haven't committed? Give me a break. I fear for my life, my future and the future after I'm gone knowing that you uneducated ego-driven knuckleheads who have ONLY been trained to fight, win and take no for answers are in control of preserving my rights and my country, not just now, but for the future to come, as well.


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Heels_N_Squeals 50F
68 posts
7/20/2018 9:09 am

Rochblue: Isn't that the truth!


Heels_N_Squeals 50F
68 posts
7/20/2018 9:27 am

FMAOPLS: "Of course, what he did was wrong..."

I love how positively sure you seem to be about this. And you know there was a crime committed? How? Were you there? You're going off of someone's opinion here in his blog. He ( pal334 ) wants the audience to lean in the direction of finding an innocent person guilty when he has no factual evidence in the matter. What is / where is your proof and evidence that this person is wrong?? Suspicion and a hunch isn't proof or evidence that a crime was committed, so why is it that you blame an innocent person of being wrong when you have nothing to back up your claim?

Unreal how ignorant a society we have become. And yes, folks, this is the mentality of the people behind every jury in our court rooms who are judging others' of guilt or innocence. Scary!


Heels_N_Squeals 50F
68 posts
7/20/2018 9:48 am

pal334: Now you've reduced your replies to me down to a smiley face. You're a joker! I am truly glad you leave all posts up. This way it shows the world what a bunch of uneducated ignorant clowns we have working behind the scenes who are put in to the critical roles of protecting, serving and preserving our citizens here and yet act Mickey Mouse about it all. You have no care for citizen rights, preservation or your oath. All that you military and L.E.O. members really care about is the thrill of it all, the adrenaline rush, the excitement, the power trip, the ego, bossing people around, the authority and having the world melt all over you all in praise, as if you are all some heavenly Godly figures that are doing wonders as we all watch our country simultaneously diminish in front of our very eyes. Smh! Yes, these are those who are put in position to protect my rights and preserve them. These aren't grown adult men who are put in position to do us good.It's nothing but a cartoon, an orchestrated and carefully organized gang of clueless and programmed robots going out there to serve your Master's malicious agenda of keeping the wheels spinning, keeping us all dumbed-down inside of a naive bubble and keeping the monetary system from falling apart. You men aren't ever put in to position to make positive change. You are put in to position to keep the crooked things status quo, while directly working for "The Man" whose plan is to use you to destroy your very own rights, along with every other citizen's rights. Clueless and beyond ignorant!! And that's exactly what I observe with people in these fields. They are not capable of any critical thinking of their own. They are programmed and trained, nothing more.


FMAOPLS 70F
27112 posts
7/20/2018 10:18 am

Quoting Pal334: "The law is very clear on describing the violation."

The law may be clear to you, but it isn't to me.

Is fraudulently wearing a military uniform considered "fraudulently claim having received any of a series of particular military decorations"?

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Michaelmjblucas1 54M

8/12/2018 7:31 am

Yes, it bothers me that some people will claim to be something that they are not, for personal gain. As a veteran myself, I don't flaunt my service. I rarely wear any apparel with insignia of my service, though I'm proud to have served. I also don't think badly of those that DO show their service by wearing their ball caps or such openly. They've earned it !

It's nice that some companies want to give something to those people that served. For me, I'm not in "need" of anything really. I currently have a full time job and own my own home I can buy a cup of coffee if I wanted to. I don't usually go out and offer my past, unless someone asks about it. For me, A simple thanks, or a handshake is all that is necessary, as I only did what many others did... I served; that's all. That doesn't "entitle" me to anything.

This guy, in your post, who demanded such, was probably down on himself, and wanted SOMEONE... ANYONE... to treat him special, so he reached out, and reacted in a bad way. I would not judge him too harsh, but it was right to call him on it !

Being curious and asking questions is a good thing!


NoTellLover 41F

1/12/2019 12:39 pm

And you know proof positive that all of these are fakes? If so, how? How do you know for fact that any of these pics aren't props or costume or for novelty purposes ( i.e.: Halloween, costume party, borrowed from a relative for the sake of a silly fun pic, etc... )?


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